If the teachers are not happy with their pay, I am sure we can find hundreds more who would be happy to take their place.
The bond measure settled the issue, the taxpayers said enough to having our pockets picked.
Yikes.....I appreciate that this will inconvience families, but I hope you have read what the teacher's have been offered and the costs they are being asked to make at this late date in their contract year. I'm pretty sure that knowing as many teachers as I do, and the amount of personal time and money that they put into the classroom because the DO love kids, that they are happy about this choice. From what I have read, they are being asked to take 30% paycuts. Because it's so late in the year, some teachers will owe much of their remaining cut pay for the new, giant jump in health care. THe district should at least be required to honor their contracts for the year, and allow teachers to decide next year if they choose to work next year. If Alpine had spent their money on improvements wisely, and timely, I wonder if this crisis would have be averted and not expected to be solved by teachers, who had no choices in other choices the Board has made in other areas of the district in the past. Sad all the way around....there will be no winners, and heart breaking personal hurt and loss.
I have just finished reading the "open letter to Alpine families" written by Susan Lancaster and I cannot tell you how offended I am that a teacher would suggest selling an asset of the taxpayers or closing a school in order to divert that money to teachers salaries.
This is typical of the selfish attitude of public workers who somehow feel entitled to ever more of the taxpayers dollars.
The teachers of Alpine should have gotten the message from the failed bond measure that the taxpayers of Alpine have little support for paying more or getting less for their taxes. We are still reeling from the outright theft of our tax money by the GUHSD for the High School we will never see.
I have news for the teachers of Alpine, times are tough all over. Most of the taxpayers of Alpine have seen decreases in their own personal incomes in the past few years that make the concessions faced by the teachers small in comparison. In case they have somehow missed this statistic there are over 90 million people in this country now who are not participants in the workforce.
The teachers of Alpine like every other employee in California are free to take their skills and seek better compensation elsewhere if they feel they are not being fairly compensated, but it is my opinion that if they explored that avenue, they would quickly find that they are both lucky to still have employment, and that there are a multitude of people who would gladly fill their positions and be more than happy just to be employed.
Teachers: you deserve better!
ALPINE TEACHERS HANG TOUGH! I support you.
Yes! A teacher who has to strike is not a happy teacher. It's an extremely difficult decision and I support their stand. I know they would rather be in their classrooms than out on the street being judged by people who don't have any idea of what's going on. I don't know anyone who could work for an employer and be asked to pay to work there. Many of these teachers are being asked to do that. With all the cuts imposed on them, they would actually OWE the district before the year is over. That's ridiculous! Could you afford to do that? I couldn't! Please support these teachers!!!
I support alpine
How can the board expect teachers to work without the agreed upon pay they have budgeted for?
It's getting pretty hard for me to contain my complete annoyance with such a well meaning group of people. I am so sick of the phrase, "I support our teachers." It's meaningless. OF COURSE YOU SUPPORT TEACHERS. EVERYONE SUPPORTS TEACHERS. This is not a battle of who does or does not support teachers. This is about the fact my child's teachers are WILLINGLY WALKING OFF THE JOB leaving our kids in a state of confusion, perhaps even fear, when we take them to school on Thursday. This strike will effect my child, my family and my work. It will cost me money, this district money and teachers money. And why? Because they think they deserve more, better. EVERYONE DESERVES MORE, BETTER - ESPECIALLY OUR CHILDREN. Forget about the infinitely debatable facts and figures being skewed and spewed in every direction. Forget about the fact that the district is already suffering and will now suffer more. The blame for what is happening indisputably falls squarely on the shoulders of teachers AND the district. So help me, you teachers, you "supportive" parents, and you union money hounds, there is no pride in leaving kids in the dust so you can carry a useless sign on a stick. This isn't a steel mill or a coal mine where somebody might not get an inanimate object on time. These are defenseless children who are losing out on learning, normalcy and perhaps even safety. You should all be hiding your faces in shame in the same fox hole as the superintendent and the board. Not one of you is better than the other.
This strike is not about "more, better"- it's about trying to survive in the face of a 30% pay cut. How many people outside of education could take a 30% drop in pay and still be able to meet their needs? Teachers give continually far above and beyond what most people realize. The average teachers works a 60 hour work week teaching, planning, grading, assessing, attending meetings, helping students before and after school, etc. Teachers spend hundreds of their own dollars buying classroom supplies, curriculum, and even food for students who come to school hungry. Perhaps you should try teaching for an entire day in a classroom with 34 students of different abilities, behaviors, and personalities and try to teach them something. Your appreciation and respect would increase and you would see the incredible heroes our teachers are. Alpine teachers deserve our support and help!
Teachers are not asking for MORE or BETTER! Gets your facts straight.
Are you kidding? The blame falls on the shoulders of teachers?! I wonder if you've ever tried teaching a class of 25+ students, 6 hours a day, with a severely limited budget! Oh yes, shame on teachers for wanting equitable treatment for the tremendous amount of work they do for our children! Shame on teachers for standing up for their rights to not be stripped of their wages due to their district's failure to be financially prepared! Shame on teachers for protecting their own children and families and not agreeing to work for free! Would you agree to a 30% pay cut and the possibility of not receiving a paycheck? Considering you seem so concerned about your own children and their well being, I'm assuming not. What an insult you've made to educators by placing any blame on them! Do you really think this is what they want? Do you really think that all the hard work and dedication put forth this year is easy to walk away from? At some point, teachers HAVE to stand up for themselves and put their families and the need for fair practices first! If you think any teacher on that picket line is happy to be there, you are sadly mistaken. I challenge you to step into a classroom and try teaching just one day! It takes a very talented and dedicated person to teach our children and I fully support this group of educators in their quest for equality! Stay strong Alpine teachers!
Wow! Let me start by saying that I completely understand your feelings as a parent of children being effected by the strike. This is not their fault by any means. But let me also assure you that a strike is the last thing that teachers actually want to do. As a teacher (I do NOT work for Alpine. Thank goodness!), it would break my heart to knowingly leave my students without a teacher. This is not a decision that any teacher would come to lightly. But what Alpine teachers are facing is a breach of contract which will severely effect their paychecks. Imagine that your salary, which is already limited in comparison to the work you actually perform (but that's another issue altogether), is suddenly cut by 30+%. That your health care benefits were being cut. Would you be able to survive financially if you were in that situation? Do you want your children's teachers to be living in a constant state of stress and fear because they cannot pay their bills? Before you start pointing fingers, why don't you try putting yourself in these teachers' shoes?
Teaching is still a job. It is unreasonable to suggest that because of the nature of their job that teachers should not stand up for fair and appropriate compensation. We would not ask that of any other profession. They too have families to support and bills to pay. Not to mention that like with any occupation, the better the compensation the more an employer can require of their employees, and therefore we may get a better employee. Should they lose their homes and healthcare in order to educate your child because of the moral obligation implicit in education? Likewise in developed nations all over the world teachers are respected, valued and paid accordingly. In America we expect them to work for less, with less support and do more. I'm happy the Alpine teachers are standing up for themselves and teaching our children, through their own example, to not accept anything less than what they have earned and rightfully deserve.
I hear what you are saying... I am not an Alpine teacher, but I do teach in East County. I am mortified that the teachers of Alpine need to strike. This is the absolute last thing that a teacher wants to do. Teachers are not WILLINGLY WALKING OFF THE JOB! They are being forced to, to maintain their salaries/benefits/etc. No teacher will be happy to strike. They will be heart-broken. Your children DO DESERVE MORE! Do you think that Alpine Schools will attract excellent teachers if their pay is significantly less that surrounding districts? One needs to look at the big picture here. Hopefully, the district and the teachers can settle quickly -- the reason for the strike. A child WILL NOT LOSE OUT ON LEARNING OR BE AT RISK FOR SAFETY if the teachers need to be out of the classrooms for a couple of days. I guarantee you the teachers will be more upset than most of the students. I am sorry for all involved.
Hey Getting Harder...When is the last time you took a 60% (or even a 30%) cut in your salary to work harder & provide more services to an ever-growing number of "consumers?" You're right...this is not market competition. And these teachers are not providing some tangible product to their clientele. This is a captive group of workers who have no ability to impact the money they make except in a collective manner. Wouldn't it be great if teachers could negotiate on their own behalf and the best & most effective could be compensated according to their amazing ability? But they can't. And the districts are happy that they can't because they can hold all teachers hostage & pay everyone less (except themselves of course) & continue to claim poverty. I'm very sorry that your children will be impacted. I'm not a teacher in Alpine and I don't have kids that go there, and so it doesn't impact me directly. I don't doubt a strike will impact your children in a negative way. It's a shame that will happen to them or anyone's children. But lets also not forget the children of the teachers' who will have less food, less clothes, fewer necessities, and lower family incomes if they just sit by and take it because that is what teachers are supposed to do. We all have financial responsibilities & mouths to feed...including teachers.
Defenseless children deserve defendable well-educated, appreciated, talented teachers to help them learn how to defend themselves against illiterate uninformed angry people.
I SUPPORT ALPINE TEACHERS. NO ONE DESERVES A 30% PAY CUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WHAT A TEACHER GIVES IN TIME AND ENERGY IS ALREADY GREATER THAN THE SUM OF ALL THEIR PAY CHECKS PUT TOGETHER.
As you shame all of those individuals that you trust with the education of your children, ask yourself where your priorities lie. The problem goes higher than the School Board or the Superintendent, but the solution begins with us. Explain why California has some of the highest tax rates of any state and yet we are ranked #49 in funding for education. Why do we send our kids to school every day expecting teachers to be responsible for their futures and yet we don't want to compensate them for their skills, knowledge, expertise, and commitment? Why is it okay for other careers to demand a high salary and yet we expect educators to do it out of the kindness of their hearts and their commitment to children?
A teacher’s salary is a direct reflection of the level of education and the number of years of service/experience they hold. Hence, you are paying more for highly qualified teachers who have ample experience at what they do. Yes, you could pay less and hire new teachers each year with only a Bachelor's degree and a credential, and the district would have ample funds to spare. However, how would the children benefit from a district with less educated teachers with little to no experience? When you choose a doctor or a dentist, do you choose the cheapest service provider with the lowest prices, or do you consider experience, level of education, and expertise when making a decision that impacts yourself and your family?
Perhaps those who pass judgment on the teachers for striking should walk a day in their shoes. Try teaching 30+ individuals mixed in with behavior problems, learning problems, and social problems and then tell me what you think the value of a great teacher is. Most of us have a difficult time managing the needs of our children at one time; imagine trying to manage the needs of a class of children at one time. It takes a highly skilled person to keep a class of children engaged and learning for 6 hours out of the day. The demand to raise scores and produce educated young minds increases the pressure on educators. I think the philosophy of education can be summed up in this quote, “We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, with so little, for so long, we are not qualified to do anything with nothing.” -Mother Teresa of Calcutta
Teachers are not asking for more, they are asking to not have taken away what they already depend on to live. Trust me, no one wants to strike. It is a scary time for educators as well as children and families. It is a last resort only when all other options have failed. For those who want to point fingers and lay blame, remember this; when you point the finger, you have three pointing back at you! What are you doing to make a difference? What are you doing to support the development of productive members of society?
Big support to the Alpine teachers, students and parents! It is a crime that administrations (Alpine and others) have decided to wage war on their students & teachers. Shame on them for thinking that quality education can be had by pulling the financial rug (30% to 60% in compensation) from teachers. Huge class sizes, aging & lacking resources, increasing administration salaries & all the while claiming poverty...surely the citizens will support teachers and re-pay such mismanagement at the ballot box!
The Alpine teachers would never strike unless they were pushed to their limit. They are not being treated fairly and certainly are not being given the respect they deserve for the job they are doing.Sad that the kids will also pay for the district's irresponsibility.
YES...I support the TEACHERS!
Stand Strong with our hard-working dedicated Alpine Educators providing a quality public education for our children. Recruiting and retaining diverse credentialed Alpine teachers short and long-term is contingent on a fair contract and systemic support for the resources teachers and education support personnel need to meet the learning needs of our students in the 21st Century. The opportunity for unity, partnership, and colloboration for our children is now. My family stands to support our dedicated Alpine educators to attain an equitable contract to have the tools to strengthen teaching and learning.
I wish all those who vote NO would spend a week trying to teach a class.
I hope the teachers and the district come to a fair settlement for the community but I don't believe more money is necessarily a fair settlement
They need to agree to what the non-biased fact finders report stated. In that, the teachers will still be taking cuts. The teachers have agreed to some cuts, but can't afford to keep working in Alpine if they aren't supported more. If this community wants to keep and attract great teachers, they need to realize that teachers' backs shouldn't be broken in order to save their spending problems. Again, please just go with the fact finders report. It is fair and unbiased. Please!
The Teachers in Alpine are not looking for "more money". The Alpine School Board has unilaterally imposed SIGNIFICANT CUTS to Teacher salaries and benefits. Significant unilateral cuts are NOT fair to teachers, students, or the community.
Teachers are overworked and underpaid as it is. These folks shouldn't have to bear the brunt of the school board's fiscal irresponsibility.
Alpine teachers deserve better treatment than they have been getting from their School Board and Administrators.
Give them a reasonable offer and let them get back to what they do better than anyone, teach!
"Free pulic education" is not free. Teachers are underpaid to begin with - and now we want to cut!
Teachers work very hard and Alpine teachers should not be facing cuts. What people do not seem to understand is that when you take away from teachers, you are also taking away from the students. You cannot have quality education if teachers are constantly worried about pay-cuts or how they are going to pay their bills and take care of their families.
the educators deserve to earn more
Yes, of course!
Our property values will go down if our teachers are one of the worst paid in the county. We will never attract young vibrant teachers with poor pay. Who would drive to Alpine for poor pay and poor leadership.
Our teachers deserve better.
We need to do better for our teachers.
Teachers deserve better pay.
I fully support the Alpine Teachers in their bid for a fair settlement. If striking is what they must do to send a message to the Board members, then I am fully behind their efforts. I just hope that the board of trustees will be reasonable and will not let it have to come to a strike.